he talked about the 47% and the flaws of ryan as a candidate. the fact that he was against the stimulus but asked for stimulus money. romney had that big foreign policy speech and said the president didn't sign any trade agreements. paul ryan voted in favor of a trade agreement that president obama signed. so these were some of the things that came out. >> so in other words, when -- the criticism of this guy, when you said, he was rude, i don't understand that. i don't understand he didn't talk about -- >> really? >> no. he didn't call someone a name, talk about their mother. that's kind of what people do when they're having an actual conversation. whether it's someone on the right or the left. mitt romney was very aggressive in the presidential debate, and some people said it was bordering on rude. but guess what? he won that debate. you may think that joe biden was rude, but that's all part of the process. what's wrong with that when you're in a debate? >> well, people are rude. so you drew a correlation how people are in real life and people